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Posts: 1331 (18/07/2008 12:31:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None Hi, I had my long awaited hospital appointment yesterday to see the specialist about my shoulder and upper arm. Apart from having a steroid injection, which she herself didn't think would do much good, I have to go home and live with the constant pain and not being able to lift my arm up at all. Now don't all start laughingbut she told me to try and do things that didn't involve lifting my arms up. That's almost impossible when you are only 4'10". Also the worst things that I can do is peg washing out and clean windows, I must learn to delegate. OH is only home at the week-end and the 2 old cats are not very good with pegs. Apparently it is all coming from my neck as a result of a bad car accident 19yrs. ago. I felt really low when I came out of there. I was offered physio but she said "I doubt it will do any good". I felt really miserable all day yesterday. However, today is a new day and I thought, at least it won't stop me crafting and I have my grandchildren, 2 of which come every Friday. As yet my legs are OKso there is no excuse not to play footy this afternoon. Sorry for the moan, I realise that there are a lot worse off than me, so have kicked myself into touch and must learn to get on with it. Hugs, Judith.x
Tina		#1	[-]
Posts: 29804 (18/07/2008 12:34:25) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Judith I am sorry to hear this and I do hope you feel a bit better about things soon. I have to say this interested me as my shoulders have been getting more and more painful and it is almost impossible to lift my left one without bad pain. Now I too had a bad car accident some years back and was in a surgical collar for six months as well as six months of intense physio, so I am now wondering if that is my problem. Oh well, shall we have a grumble together? Take care Tina x
embossed123		#2	[-]
Posts: 1331 (18/07/2008 12:37:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	There was something else that I forgot to tell you, this is the best bit. When I walked out of the hospital a very friendly seagull pooped all down my sleeve and the side of my coat. I always thought that meant good luck! I'm hoping I might win the lottery on Saturday.lol Hugs, Judith.x
bsk751		#3	[-]
Posts: 90 (18/07/2008 12:40:27) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi Judith Dare I suggest that you ask your GP if you can get another opinion? If you maybe say that the specialist was was very negative and dismissive of your problem? I do admire your positive thinking though. Love Michele x
Tina		#4	[-]
Posts: 29804 (18/07/2008 12:40:37) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Oh dear Judith! I can tell you a funny story about seagulls. Joanna and I were walking along the seafront eating ice creams when suddenly we were mugged by two seagulls. They both in unison came at us, one flew across my shoulder and grabbed my ice cream, poor Joanna, her one landed on her head before grabbing hers and flying off. We were both stood there with two stumps of cornets, wondering whether to laugh or cry. We named them Phil and Grant Gull
WelshPaula		#5	[-]
Posts: 7881 (18/07/2008 12:43:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Judith, I am so sorry to hear this. What a terrible attitude the doctor had though! I hope you are going for the injection, and the physio, you may find they help a lot more than the doctor thought they would! What have you got to lose? If you have the injection, rest as much as you can for two days afterwards, although the doctors and nurses seen reluctant to tell you this, you do need to let them get to work before you 'try them out' so to speak. I hope you get the help you need. Paula x
murchison		#6	[-]
Posts: 5215 (18/07/2008 12:57:20) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	i do hope you get sorted sending hugs
May		#7	[-]
Posts: 1790 (18/07/2008 13:02:08) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Dear Judith Sorry to hear about your arm and shoulder, I do hope something can be done take care May XX
rosietoes		#8	[-]
Posts: 1182 (18/07/2008 13:15:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Judith your attitude will go a long way to getting you through the painful days and nights. I would ask for another opinion nevertheless. I remember being referred to a pain clinic some years ago and waiting interminably for the appointment. When I got there they were cross that I had been referred as someone with my condition could not be helped except - wait for it - by smoking cannabis, but they couldn't prescribe that. Needless to say I chose to get on with it. You seek out help and try the physio as it may bring relief even if it's temporary. Don't let one doctor's opinion hold you back.
orcadianprincess		#9	[-]
Posts: 1001 (18/07/2008 13:40:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I would say try the physio, they specialise in pain relief, if you're lucky it might even help. What a poor attitude the doctor had, your own indominable spirit will help above any negativity passed on by others. Caroline
lindah11		#10	[-]
Posts: 2570 (18/07/2008 13:43:19) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	oh dear you are in wars sending you a ((((hug )))) hope it gets better soon for you ... love linda xxx
gregruscul		#11	[-]
Posts: 56 (18/07/2008 14:33:18) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I don't know if you would consider some of the 'complimentary' approaches, but if so then you might find some help there. I've had chronic back pain on and off since I was about 15 (now the grand old age of 34), and have always been told by doctors to take prescription pain killers and get on with things. I've tried lots of approaches, some of which have helped a little (like Bowen Technique) and some which have helped enormously (like Craniosacral Therapy). You might find that a simple gentle massage regularly from a qualified practitioner, while not getting rid of the pain, might relax your muscles slightly and lessen some of the symptoms. I hope this helps, I'm sure lots of us know how any constant pain can really get to you at times.
janthecake		#12	[-]
Posts: 8113 (18/07/2008 14:47:37) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	So sorry to hear your news Judith, must say I'm not impressed by the doctor's negative attitude, maybe go back to your GP & ask for another opinion, you may well have more luck with someone else. I hope something can help you, you definately have the right attitude even if the doctor didn't, take care Jan x
suzanne		#13	[-]
Posts: 10704 (18/07/2008 14:50:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	So sorry to hear of your news - maybe you can ask someone else if there is some relief for you - I kept asking after being told there is nothing they can do and i`m 90 % there being fit again We are all here if you do get down and need a chat Suzanne
inkyfingers		#14	[-]
Posts: 827 (18/07/2008 18:03:05) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I go for aromatherapy massage and she really understands about muscles and muscle connections. Even if she can't help with the underlying problem she would be able to help stop everything else getting sore from accommodating the damaged parts. One woman was waiting for a hip replacement until my therapist managed to get her muscles to relax for the first time in years. Hospitals don't do hands on medicine so they don't always know exactly where all the pains are coming from. Alison
Robertson 111		#15	[-]
Posts: 6576 (18/07/2008 19:30:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Sorry to hear this, Judith, like others I think you should ask for a second opinion. Take care Dee x
Suzi Q		#16	[-]
Posts: 6298 (18/07/2008 20:27:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I am very sorry to hear your news Judith, I was told nothing could be done for me when I had my neck problems the second time, I asked for and got a second opinion, and the Consultant I saw then said he could help me, I had a second operation but still have pain, though not as bad as before. I think your doctors attitude stinks. I hope you can find someone who can offer you some hope. Sue
Minnielulu		#17	[-]
Posts: 53 (18/07/2008 20:33:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Judith some pain clinics at hospitals offer accupunture. It doesn't work for everyone but my mum suffers with sever back pain due to rhuemitiod (sorry can neaver spell that right) arthritis. She has treatment every 6 weeks or so and it really helps. Min
embossed123		#18	[-]
Posts: 1331 (18/07/2008 21:06:29) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Would like to thank you all so much for your kind thoughts. I had a lovely day with my grandchildren. After my car accident 19yrs.ago I had physio and steroid injections for months. The physio did help my back but did nothing at all for my neck. I just learned to live with it. Someone told me about an excellent osteopath and I decided to give it a go. It took a few visits, but I can now turn my head from side to side, something I haven't been able to do for 19yrs. I feel like an owl, tho' I can't quite manage all the way around yet. He has relieved the pain too. My arm and shoulder he was a bit worried about that and he wrote to my doctor asking if I could have a scan, as he wanted to see what was going on inside. He 'phoned me up on Tuesday to ask how I had got on. He has gone on holiday now but said he would get in touch when he returned. I think I will go back to him and see what he can do to help. Fingers crossed, he will be able to do something. He did say right at the start as the injuries to my spine were permanent that my neck pain will return, but hopefully a visit to him 2 or 3 times a year would help. I feel he has worked a miracle on my neck, so I'm hoping for the best. Thank you all once again for your kind thoughts and messages. Hugs to you all, Judith.x
june barker		#19	[-]
Posts: 1487 (19/07/2008 00:29:26) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	dear judith, i have only just read this thread and when i read your first message, i first thought, was to try an osteopath but now i see you have already done that. it just shows he is concern and looking after you as he wanted a scan. your osteopath should have the results back now on your scan and i am sure he can give you some help and advice. i have great faith in the osteopath and i have used them myself many a time over the years for different reasons. i wish they could be on the nhs or even part of the nhs, if they were, more people would be in better health. thinking of you, love june xx
Glitzzy		#20	[-]
Posts: 539 (19/07/2008 06:30:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hello,just to say please take care of yourself,some Dr's are not to good,just hope you get better treatment and feel bit better soon. Love and hugs Maureen x

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