Thanks Denise and Elaine, now got a BIG bruise on my derrire smiley: eek. Wendy smiley: rollsmiley: rollsmiley: roll you couldn't kick a hole in a paper bag at the mo or run with that bad back, but thanks for trying smiley: smile. What a bunch of no hopers we are. Hope the new ladies don't repeat our disasters next year. Will get back onto posting my highs and lows again. Gill x