Thank you Jo for the insert / symbol.  I have had for years a sheet typed out with all these symbols and how to produce them. It has sat at the bottom of a drawer in my desk and had turned a very pleasing sepia colour. Had a need to use it a couple of months ago and as is the way, when I went to get it, it's not there.  So annoyed I had kept it for all those years and when needed it was gone. Noticed the symbol sign top right but never clicked on it. There is so much inside this little machine that I don't know about, it's just like having another child. haha.    Jay  xx