I,ve just spoken to Tracey again,,she,s almost given up.Her comment is,,Well the judge obviously knows best!!!!!! he flipping well doesn't,,She's not a perfect mother by any means,,but then can any of us say we where.The children where clean,fed ,and very much loved.My trouble is I,m quite volatile when it comes to my children and my grandchildren,I wish I was closer,This is turning into a circus,which these kids shouldnt have to be involved in,the trouble is as a grandparent the judge wont listen to me not even with a letter given to the barrister,So now we sit and wait and pray that Tracey doesnt give in to all the pressure thats being put on her,and she doesnt crack in the mean time.Her sister is like me,Tracey is timid like the other side of the family,,how I wish it was Vicky they where dealing with the kids would be home by now,,lol Thank you for your messages you mught just save my sanity,,I was given 4 trials a few weeks ago,they were all boxes of tissues,,,boy do I need em now,,,, love sue xxxx